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Course Review – Invest in the States (Ayshe Kadir)

Posted by Mark Harrison on October 31, 2006

Should I invest overseas?

This has to rank as one of the most common questions that I am asked. Now, I have made no secret of the fact that all my portfolio is within an hour drive of where I live (and most of it within 15 minutes.)

However, given I was asked the question so much, I thought that I should get up to speed on some of the most popular overseas
investment locations, Cyprus and the USA.

In June, I went on the Invest In The States course run by Ayshe Kadir.

The reason that I chose Ayshe and her course is that she is first and foremost a property investor (who happens to enjoy training people.) I have a concern about courses run by people without any real expeirience, or good presenters who present material written by others. In this case, no problems – Ayshe has been a landlord in the UK for many years, and has been investing in the States for several years. Everything she teaches is based on her own experience, not just a re-hash of a book.

As we all know, it IS possible to source properties below market value in the UK, by concentrating on finding people who value a sale quickly more than they value the best possible price. However, as we also know in the UK, it can be time-consuming to find these people.

In the USA, however, the information about people who are behind on their mortgages and therefore facing repossession is regarded not as private, but as public information. This does not mean that it is free, but there are places where it can be bought very cost-effectively.

This difference, and this alone, makes a huge difference to the investor. Anyone going into the course with a UK-leafletting mindset will be pleasently surprised at how that step can be bypassed.

Ayshe teaches not only how to find this information, but how then to make use of it and convert those leads into sales. While some of the techniques she uses are similar to those that I teach in my negotiation course, and others are similar to those that Parmdeep Vadesha and Glenn Armstrong teach on their BMV courses, there are others that are peculiar to UK people investing in the US.

The course is both detailed and interactive – rather than using a pre-canned set of Powerpoints, Ayshe looked at a live lead she had just receive by email, then went through the process of getting more information, obtaining comparable pricing, and preparing for the initial contact.

Rather than having a live conversation with a vendor in the course, though, she played a pre-recorded conversation with one from whom she had bought a property the previous month. This added to the atmosphere (though with a thick southern drawl, was hard to follow at times when played back to the room.)

The material for the one-day course I attended was on finding and negotiating with pre-foreclosure vendors in the States. Ayshe also runs other courses on Tax Liens, Tax Deeds, and Deed Trading.

In addition to the course itself, Ayshe includes a very comprehensive manual which not only reviews the principles and practices she teaches, but also gives in-detail assessments of many different areas within the States from an investor’s perspective.

I started out somewhat sceptical about the concept of investing in the States, and after the day am very much more positive. I have not (yet) bought there, but feel rather more confident about my ability to do so now.

I also persuaded Ayshe to give me a quick interview, which I recorded and is now available here.

So, the key question – do I recommend the course?

Only to certain people:

  • If you are committed to investing in the States, then this is the best resource I have yet come across, and I would recommend it without hesitation.
  • If you are considering investing in the States, then I would recommend you go to one of the preview Seminars that Ayshe runs. These cost about ten pounds each, and will give you about an hour basic training, followed by some more nformation about the course.

To get more details of the course, or the preview seminars, look at Ayshe’s site

Declaration: I receive a small commission if you go on the full course as a result of following the link above! I do not receive anything if you go on the preview seminar and decide that the course is not for you.


19 Responses to “Course Review – Invest in the States (Ayshe Kadir)”

  1. […] … until I bumped into Ayshe Kadir at (ironically) a networking event in London the week before last. As you probably know, Ayshe runs Invest in the States, and seems to spend a lot of her time commuting between her offices in London and Florida. I’ve talked about Invest in the States before here. […]

  2. martin said

    I hit the link to Ayshe’s webpage but it does not connect.
    Is there a problem with it? Is there another link?
    I am looking to invest in USA and would welcome opportunity to sign up for this course.



  3. Martin,

    I’ve emailed Arin, Ayshe’s PA, asking her to contact you directly. (And for that matter, send me a new link that works!)



  4. Hi Mark,

    Please correct you affiliate link above to

  5. Alan Stanley said

    I got involved with Ayshe and Invest in the States just over 2 years ago, i spent around approx £7000 for myself and my wife to get involved,the whole idea for my joining was to and i quote her words used on several occasions to buy property way below market price for NO MONEY DOWN AND CASH BACK, i made a point of calling her and explaining that i would have to borrow the money from the bank to join and that i would not have any money to purchase property and she once again assured me that was the idea for people with no funds to buy those types of property first and build up your funds with the cash back, well that promise was never kept, despite asking for my money back on several occasions she refused and said that under the terms and conditions she felt she had fulfilled her obligations because she had opened a company and bank account on our behalf, but what good are they if i have no funds and no offers of these types of property, so my advise to anyone thinking of getting involved is BEWARE, i would very much like to here from any members who have had the same or any problems.

    • Alan Stanley said

      Since writing the above article i have been in touch with Ayshe and we came to a financial agreement suitable to both sides.

  6. concerned said

    Don’t get involved with Ayshe Kadir, she’s a liar, her first company was a temping agency based in Africa House, Holborn, London, It was called AnKer Support Personnel. She has never had offices in Park Lane, AKA was a business that she ran originally ran from home before opening an office in Wansted, East London. She’s conning people out of their money.

    As Alan Stanley posted,think very carefully before getting involved.

    • ged king said

      Ayshe Kadir is LYING. She started temping ( tempd at BP, BT amongst many) for polyverba who were based in Fleet Street before thinking that she could make it out on her own but AnKer failed and no one would give her a job; she then then tried her hand at selling junk cleaning products, magnetic bracelets amongst others. Ayshe got lucky when she was left as the sole beneficiary of DorothyTythicott’s estate which is where she now lives; The house that she bought 107 Frith Road, Leytonstone, E11 4EX she rented out (still does) and remortgaged in order to generate cash as well as conning people into her ideas (pyramid selling). Con artists have found out one very important thing, people always want a get rich quick scheme without having to work for their money. Do not deal with people such as her.

  7. Hi

    With regards to Alan Stanley please see a comment he posted on: with regards to the above.

    As to whether I started my IT company in Park Lane, that is ABSOLUTELY THE TRUTH – we rented the basement training rooms below The Langham Secretarial College. We ran many courses there both for the general public and also for companies. I have invoices going back to those days clearly with the Park Lane address on it and also staff payslips for people that I employed.

    It is rather sad that people waste a great deal of their time and energy posting malicious comments without consulting the person that the malicious remarks are about. Please note that I use my name so everyone knows who I am. Why does the writers of the derogatory remarks use a pseudonym “bishbish” “concerned” instead of their own real names? What are they hiding about themselves?

    I have also learned over the years, and I am sure that some of you reading this can relate to this, there are a lot of people who do nothing but moan and spew out negativity. That is the world that they live in and they are only happy when they make everyone around them miserable too.

    We sell deed properties to other investors, as well as keeping some for ourselves, because we want to help people with purchasing properties at below market value. There are many people in the UK selling BMV properties – will the writers attack them too?

    I hope you will keep an open mind and attend either one of our live or online mini tranings to learn first hand whether this is something you wish to do.

    If anyone wants to contact me direct then please get our information from


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